Instead of such fruitful discussion I found a lot of disrespect and judgments on my characters (even though this person does not know me), and many ad hominems against "religious people".
Not one of my arguments was answered, and yet he would blame me for being preachy and unreasonable, when in fact I offered him no theology nor Scriptures, but pure philosophy.
Will anyone out there take a more worthy stance and actually discuss these matters with me?
[I had posted his responses in full, but he asked me to delete them, so I have only left my two initial statements: my critique to Nietzsche's claim, and my first response to his response]
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J1Militans:
*Is man merely a mistake of God's? Or God merely a mistake of man's? Friedrich Nietzsche --- ehh, neither! If man had made God as an idea, then why did every society make up a higher being since the history of man began, and if God created man, and if God is good and perfect, then it must follow that man is not a mistake, but simply something great gone wrong! the fact that Niet. sees man as a mistake (or God) then it shows that there is something wrong in man, which in turn points out that man is not what the ought to have been, which in turn points that man was good to begin with... One can't have a mistake without a prior good being there... ;)
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[My opponent's answer has been, sadly, deleted]
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J1Militans:
You got me completely wrong, sire. It's more of a psycological approach, if you will: from the very beginnings of man (and I have researched this) man has "invented" some God or gods to worship, something higher than mankind. Now. Did man invent God? If so, why?
In other words, I am born with a desire to eat and drink, and that's because there is such a thing as food and water. It would seem that humanity has an innate desire for the divine and the eternal, and we see the evidence of this in my above point that man has always "invented" some sort of God or deity to follow and worship.
Again, why does man feel this "need" to "invent" God?
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J1Militans:
"It is only the man who is insecure in his own beliefs who brings unwanted and uninvited lectures to those around him." It would be easy to say the same of Nietzsche or yourself.... would it not? ;)
"thus randomly telling other people how wrong they are." And wouldn't this apply very nicely to yourself too? :-D
Those points, or attacks, aside, let us dive into this.
Why would I, a Christian, would like to point to my friend Paula that Mr. Frederich Niet. was wrong... And why would you, a man unknown to me, desire to prove me wrong?
What I'm getting at is this: we are seeking truth, aren't we? And we know that both you and I cannot be right in the same respect and at the same time, as neither could Nietzsche and St. Paul be both right in the same respect and at the same time....
A further point. Why would we try to seek truth?
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[Although his responses were more of attacks on religious people and our conviction to defend our beliefs, instead of responses to the points and arguments I brought forth, I still have honored his request and deleted his responses]
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ReplyDeleteSo it seems that the New Atheism gets a big A on Arrogance, and arrogance that, as I said, blinds these people even from having debates.... Yet they still want to go forward destroying Christianity through Ad Hominem and other fallacies instead of actual rational arguments.
ReplyDeleteVery well.
This blog shall be deleted as said, tomorrow by this time.