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Premise: A fetus/embryo is a human being as it comes from human parents, and as such, it is wrong to kill him. Therefore, if abortion terminates an embryo/fetus; if a fetus/embryo is a human being and a separate, unique, irreplaceable life; and if to terminate a separate, unique, irreplaceable (and innocent) life is murder, then: Abortion Is Murder.
canadianskye1964 (2 days ago) Remove | Block User | Spam
ReplyDeleteand who gave you the right to tell women what to do with your bodies? it comes down to a women's freedom of choice. abortion wasn't such a controversy until women got rights. that is what abortion is to me: someone trying to control a women's body. if a women can abort a man's baby, he & the partriarchal society has lost total control over women.
canadianskye1964 (2 days ago) Remove | Block User | Spam
ratzinger had a choice, he took the cowardly way out. he could have chosen a honourable death rather than allowing himself to be part of the psychopathic nazis.
Alright, to this I reply:
ReplyDelete1. Ratzinger is a human being who has done mistakes in his life... I think you can well understand that, perhaps even in the abortion realm.
2. The Nazis also demanded abortions. Do we wanna go that way?
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3. Abortion is the killing of a human being inside a womb. Just because the baby is inside her body it doesn't mean it is *her* body. Or when we got the Flu virus is the doctor doing something to the woman's body or to the virus itself?
canadianskye1964 (1 day ago) Remove | Block User | Spam
ReplyDeleteand you are truly evil in your intolerance of people, except your narrow, rigid view of humanity. of course you support the poop, you would prob. round up people like hitler did & exterminate them to make a perfect world of your own. you sympathize with a former nazi youth.
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[J1Militans]
To which I say:
1. Have you ever looked at a mirror? Do you see any reflection? We are intolerant of babies being killed in the name of choice. But we're not intolerant to your opinions. We are here to refute them and not shut you out or silence you, like the baby in your womb is silenced when you get an abortion.
2. The same point goes: people make mistakes. Perhaps you've had an abortion and regret it. Then you would be judged based on who you are now, not on what you did. Or else is there such a thing is being a better person, ever, if one is always judged and haunted by the mistakes one did?
"canadianskye1964:
ReplyDeletedo not post me on my channel, either one of you; i don't want you anti-abortion crap on my channel. if you post on my channel i wil report you for harassment. i am only responding to your charges gatta9 which i don't care about."
What sort of hypocrisy is this?
You tell us not to post on your channel (is that what you were trying to say?) and yet you come and bombard MY channel with your stuff? I should have done this long ago, but please refer to my blog if you want to continue this discussion (http://j1militans.blogspot.com/2010/08/unending-abortion-post.html). In there I've responded to some of your claims, but they are too many and I go not time to answer every single one is this.
Besides, what does it matter if the Pope WAS a Nazi Youth guy. I'm sure in your life you've been forced to do something you don't like, maybe your parents are Christian, maybe your boyfriend persuaded you into having an abortion, or maybe in kindergarden you were duped into doing something you did not want to but did it so they wouldn't make fun of you. People make mistakes. It doesn't right them, but people can surely change and become better persons.
What does it matter if a woman wants to abort? A Baby is NOT a Choice but a human being, a unique, separate, irreplaceable life.
What does it matter if the Church acts in errenous ways when dealing with corrupt priests? This wrong behavior from part of the Church needs to be changed, but it does not justify abortion either.
What does it matter if the Church has a strong stance against abortion? There are reasons behind it, the most fundamental one being that A fetus/embryo is a human being as it comes from human parents, and as such, it is wrong to kill him. Therefore, if abortion terminates an embryo/fetus; if a fetus/embryo is a human being and a separate, unique, irreplaceable life; and if to terminate a separate, unique, irreplaceable (and innocent) life is murder, then: Abortion Is Murder.
Unless you're ready to sympathize with the Nazis when justifying murder, then we must look at the issue at hand: not the Church, not the Pope, not oppression of freedom, but the HUMANITY of the separate, irreplaceable, unique life inside the womb of a woman.
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And lastly, what hypocrisy is here. Besides tellign us not to post on your profile (which we can't even do because you don't have that option!) and still posting TONS of stuff in MY profile, you also say you care about the women's choice, about the women who are raped, and yet you give no shit (pardon my obscenity) about Gatta's horrible past.
You claim to be so caring sensitive, but yet you give no shit about the people you disagree with. Why this impartiality? Why this hypocrisy? Do you feel judged by our statement that a baby is a human being and therefore abortion is murder? If perhaps you've had an abortion, then Jesus forgives you and tells you: repent and sin no more. We are not judging anyone here, but simply stating a simple fact: abortion is murder and murder is wrong.
God bless you.
"canadianskye1964:
ReplyDeletedo not post me on my channel, either one of you; i don't want you anti-abortion crap on my channel. if you post on my channel i wil report you for harassment. i am only responding to your charges gatta9 which i don't care about."
What sort of hypocrisy is this?
You tell us not to post on your channel (is that what you were trying to say?) and yet you come and bombard MY channel with your stuff? I should have done this long ago, but please refer to my blog if you want to continue this discussion (http://j1militans.blogspot.com/2010/08/unending-abortion-post.html). In there I've responded to some of your claims, but they are too many and I go not time to answer every single one is this.
Besides, what does it matter if the Pope WAS a Nazi Youth guy. I'm sure in your life you've been forced to do something you don't like, maybe your parents are Christian, maybe your boyfriend persuaded you into having an abortion, or maybe in kindergarden you were duped into doing something you did not want to but did it so they wouldn't make fun of you. People make mistakes. It doesn't right them, but people can surely change and become better persons.
ReplyDeleteWhat does it matter if a woman wants to abort? A Baby is NOT a Choice but a human being, a unique, separate, irreplaceable life.
What does it matter if the Church acts in errenous ways when dealing with corrupt priests? This wrong behavior from part of the Church needs to be changed, but it does not justify abortion either.
What does it matter if the Church has a strong stance against abortion? There are reasons behind it, the most fundamental one being that A fetus/embryo is a human being as it comes from human parents, and as such, it is wrong to kill him. Therefore, if abortion terminates an embryo/fetus; if a fetus/embryo is a human being and a separate, unique, irreplaceable life; and if to terminate a separate, unique, irreplaceable (and innocent) life is murder, then: Abortion Is Murder.
Unless you're ready to sympathize with the Nazis when justifying murder, then we must look at the issue at hand: not the Church, not the Pope, not oppression of freedom, but the HUMANITY of the separate, irreplaceable, unique life inside the womb of a woman.
ReplyDeleteAnd lastly, what hypocrisy is here. Besides tellign us not to post on your profile (which we can't even do because you don't have that option!) and still posting TONS of stuff in MY profile, you also say you care about the women's choice, about the women who are raped, and yet you give no shit (pardon my obscenity) about Gatta's horrible past.
ReplyDeleteYou claim to be so caring sensitive, but yet you give no shit about the people you disagree with. Why this impartiality? Why this hypocrisy? Do you feel judged by our statement that a baby is a human being and therefore abortion is murder? If perhaps you've had an abortion, then Jesus forgives you and tells you: repent and sin no more. We are not judging anyone here, but simply stating a simple fact: abortion is murder and murder is wrong.
God bless you.
(re-posted at http://j1militans.blogspot.com/2010/08/unending-abortion-post.html)
i have never had an abortion so your charges are wrong. there is no need for me to have an abortion as i am a virgin (why i choose to remain a virgin--because i don't wish to be pregnant nor face having an abortion. hypocrisy, maybe, but it is about choice. i never said i didn't give a 'shit' about gatta9 that is your interpretation. i do have the right to block your comments. youtube gives subscribers to block people hence 'block user.
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ReplyDeleteHello good person (sos1989yuki),
My video was blocked, so I can no longer respond there.
I'll respond here, though if you want to do this publicly, feel free to do so in my blog:
http://j1militans.blogspot.com/2010/08/unending-abortion-post.html
Ok. You said.
"I was raped at 11 by my dad, had an abortion, what would u have decided as a parent to do, you prolife "activists" why dont you spend more time teaching people about the benefits of birth control instead of telling people how to live? Fuck u all."
Well. I am sorry you were raped, and not only that, but at 11, and not only that, but by your dad!
Three horrendous things in one.
Three of the most awful crimes that can be committed.
The person who is supposed to love you unconditionally and to protect you even with his life, to do this?
I truly am sorry.
But does a baby deserve the death sentence for a crime he didn't commit?
And would birth control have made your rape "better"?
And how come I can't tell people that benefits of having a kid and the harmfulness that comes from killing one, but you can tell people that they should be in birth control? I sense some hypocrisy here.. Or some contradiction at least...
Pax Christi,
J1Militans